The Cognitive Tradeoff Hypothesis


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    Humans are the only Earthlings with complex language. But at what cost was that ability acquired? In this episode, I visit Tetsuro Matsuzawa to learn about his influential cognitive tradeoff hypothesis.
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JC
JC

Ok. That's it. Time to subscribe.

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vegard pig
vegard pig

*look* *at* *spider* *monkey*

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Zekemeout
Zekemeout

Wtf michael?

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Yuvraj Mallick
Yuvraj Mallick

19:21 *_Ayumu_* (after seeing this) : _Aa aa uu uu_ ( *Translation* : Yeah Michael that could help beginners)

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Guks grt
Guks grt

your DoppelgangeR http://www.youtube.com/channel/UChpZzbYdeyO1is7-xGJsw8Q

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Flying Squirrel FPV
Flying Squirrel FPV

Has this experiment been performed with autistic savants? If they can perform at the level of the chimps then perhaps a brain scan could be used to compare the physical differences with an average brain.

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Tendai Ball
Tendai Ball

Poetic that we got kicked out of the trees and now we run the world

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Lane Krischke
Lane Krischke

The only part of this that amazes me is how the chimps can recognize and understand our numeric system. They recognize the symbols and their order. Pretty amazing, I wonder if they could be taught a basic pictogram language.

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SHAHEER AJMAL
SHAHEER AJMAL

we defended our existence.. so we developed focused observation they ruled over an area so the defense was not that much... they needed to focus on multiple subjects to achieve their goals such as the threats in the bush.. they were strong , aggressive so they would fight everyone evading their territory. we were weak , so we had to plan to survive

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John Talmage
John Talmage

I see based on many comments that it's easier to critique than to create

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SHAHEER AJMAL
SHAHEER AJMAL

if there were figures and you have to draw them.. you might be able to draw 1 or 2 with much more details where as a champ would draw all the figures at the exact same location they were before disappearing, they won't be able to draw any details

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SHAHEER AJMAL
SHAHEER AJMAL

we notice more about one but can't focus on others they focus on all... can't notice even a single one as better as we do

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SHAHEER AJMAL
SHAHEER AJMAL

michael..... we focus on one subject they do it on multiple ones.. how's that expl

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arun sheokand
arun sheokand

Great video, great message

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debu1997
debu1997

Awesome!

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Fatboy Vladimir
Fatboy Vladimir

Subtitle the Japanese guy speaking perfectly discernible English.

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Chen Yumin
Chen Yumin

No!! God made humans!! We are not monkeys!!! You are wrong!! Evolution is a myth!!

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Gamebuster19901
Gamebuster19901

Meh, speed cubers do more complex tasks than this with only a few more seconds.

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Parsa F. Kondori
Parsa F. Kondori

I miss the old Michael

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Dill Funk
Dill Funk

I don't believe evolution, such a big lie

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Grim Lock
Grim Lock

Rise of the planets of the apes

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EinfacherVincent
EinfacherVincent

I wanted to say, an amazing thing to do, go into the dictonary look a a word. Search about it and find out about it. Put it into a folder on the computer Expand your knowledge. Reverse learning.

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Awkward Italian Girl
Awkward Italian Girl

I’m too high for this.

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EveryCrazyDay
EveryCrazyDay

Honestly what a pioneer in animal research, get tons of research in realistic conditions. Also looks like this guy really cares and understands these cousins of the humans

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kliop00023
kliop00023

holy Rock, Paper, Scissors - YouTube !!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-N72oVgp2I&list=PLZRRxQcaEjA6mH0AMUIERDpbWX5rvMdKf&index=2 Kyoto University Ph.D. candidate Jie Gao shares her research involving Chimpanzees and the schoolyard game “Rock, Paper, Scissors.” Partner rating I Release date 05/12/2018 Running time 3:37 Language English Category Science & Technology

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OG Studio
OG Studio

10:56 when you buy cheetos

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Baiklzr
Baiklzr

5.7 k chimpanzees in the dislikes smh

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Alligatorcrocs
Alligatorcrocs

Subscribe to call me Carson

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John Cochran
John Cochran

If they believe the difference is sharing vs short term decision making, could this be used to diagnose antisocial personality disorder/psychopathy and better understand what it means to be psychopathic?

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samantha ohanlon
samantha ohanlon

how do they know the numbers

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Tonberry King
Tonberry King

These people really need to study the Stoned Ape Hypothesis

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IAMDIMITRI
IAMDIMITRI

Will a human grown up in the same environment have a malleable enough brain to be able to compete with the chimps?

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Recnid
Recnid

How did they teach the chimps numbers tho? They need to know 2 comes before 3 in order to succeed.

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Lunar 76
Lunar 76

The amount of humanity that was in this video is stunning, and heartwarming.

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Lunar 76
Lunar 76

This is awesome

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D Dover
D Dover

They should present other examples of the brain engaging in a cognitive trade off to support the brain does this, where the brain decreases the size of an area to make room for another area. Did our common ancestor 6 million years ago have the same ability to memorize like modern chimps do? or is it something that they developed independent of our linage over millions of years? Since we did not evolve from modern chimps how do you say we lost something they now possess? I just want to see some evidence presented besides it seems logical.

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Torab Abdullah
Torab Abdullah

we all know that the people who talk too much use less brain in thinking. so does this make them better competitor at this memory game? cause opposite to those who talk less and think too much thus, have better practice in converting thoughts into words must suck at this game? and how would you prove that this tradeoff actually happened? my biggest question is why don't we see evolution now? where are the in betweeners who started their journey becoming humans and still only half way through?

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Far Cry 4
Far Cry 4

Кто от Стаса?

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Mikhail V
Mikhail V

Следует заметит что только 1 обезьяна показывает такой результат. Результат каждой обезьяны будет сильно различаться и это скорее всего связано с обучением обезьян к повторяющимся однообразным задачам. Человек также может развить этот навык. Так что тут ничего не следует, нас обманули расходимся.

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Donald Piniach
Donald Piniach

A dash of autism and a bit of Ritalin and Michael would be ordering the Babylonian numerical system faster than any chimp.

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Георгий
Георгий

I think, that if you will be training one person from childhood to do this, he can do even better

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Jose Miguel
Jose Miguel

What if we had a human not talk with no one , would he develop some kind of language or thinking , or would he be just like chimps ?

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Eternal Reign
Eternal Reign

Whoa whoa whoa, hold the phone, never mind that the chimps could memorize it so quickly, who taught them what was the right order, or how to count to begin with? I feel like I missed an episode here.

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Radvslavvs van der Staaz
Radvslavvs van der Staaz

Michael you should say the numbers out loud to use this "trade-off" but, you can not say a few numbers in half a second. If we have exchanged the perfect photographic memory for communication skills. This should be marked in the test of man and animal.

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mlg dash
mlg dash

Hey Vsauce Michael here

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WashYourHands
WashYourHands

1:20 Ninja: *StReAm SnIpErS*

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Maksym Edel
Maksym Edel

Sharing is a part of every social life. The monkeys have developed a simple society, where they are busy with surviving, thus they share only vital information whereas we, humans, share everything and we engage our brain with this task. If we, humans (that can program / create 100 PetaFlops supercomputers) would degrade to the monkey's level we would be the most successful, but yet more dangerous species than we are now. We would develop ability to hunt under water (gills), we would be the best hunters and at the end, we would still become what we are now - humans (if to follow the theory of evolution). Because our brain was made not to just survive, but to dominate and rule. We are some kind of an experiment, not evolution's creature, because no single species on the Earth have been able to developed one thing - brain size/neurons density. That's why monkeys are monkeys, humans are humans. We have never been split, we are different. We share everything we see, monkeys share only vital information.

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roberob13 13
roberob13 13

How come no one ever talks about what we are going to evolve into?

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DancingCheese
DancingCheese

For people giving hate for this video, I think it’s important to address that the point of MindField is not to prove anything. I watched the first two seasons, each episode is an example of interesting anomalies of human psychology, normally including a type of experiment. The point of Mind Field, and most Vsauce videos, I think, is to simply inspire. It’s bite-sized science, the introduction of an interesting idea with a bit of research to back up on it, ending with some type of existential or uplifting thought. It’s supposed to inspire people to be interested in human psychology, to look into it and research it, not to prove that something like the cognitive tradeoff hypothesis is true. This video isn’t something Michael expects to be referenced in a scientific paper, it’s something Michael expects the viewers to recall when reading a scientific paper.

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Sophia Shakti
Sophia Shakti

You should devote a whole series to Russian scientist S. V. Saveliev. His ideas incorporate the ones you mentioned and develop them much further through comparative cytoarchetectonic studies of the brain.

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chronischtelaat
chronischtelaat

But of course Ayumu has been trained since he was a child. Micheal's brain had already matured and has never done the task before. I wonder if a child, trained from the same age and trained the same amount would be on the same level as the chimp. A young brain still has a lot of plasticity.

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Lemonstate
Lemonstate

I love Professor Tetsura Matsuzawa, so smart, humane and that cheeky humour is wondrous!

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Helevatic
Helevatic

that intro ooooooooo snap this will be good

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freeideas
freeideas

Wait! Something they didn't talk about: The chimps have practiced this before, maybe for YEARS! Wouldn't a human, practicing this maybe every day for a year, become extraordinarily good at these tests? I think so. Am I missing something?

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Ina Grund ♥️
Ina Grund ♥️

i never knew that monkeys know the decimal system.

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technical kd
technical kd

nice grow your channel:- #technicalkd

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sean71300
sean71300

What if those chimpanzees just have a very strong after image on digital screens?

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EveryTimeV2
EveryTimeV2

I don't think it is necessary to lose parts of your cognitive abilities to gain new ones, as we still do have vestigial parts of the brain. As time goes on you can lose things and keep them, gaining something doesn't necessitate a tradeoff at all.

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suraj tiwari
suraj tiwari

But michael did perform better after each attempt, he would do even better, if he trains himself over many years (just like they did to chimpanzee). It is likely that if he was taught nothing but recognising numbers pattern in the increasing order from birth like ayumu, he would have done equally well. Moreover, when you think in terms of language like 1(one), 2(two), it takes more time than just recognising the spatial pattern of these numbers (better to do an experiment like this: take a child, do not let him learn language by isolating him, then train him for recognising the numbers in an increasing order & reward him). It seems ayumu is making a composite image out of those numbers rather than seeing it one by one.

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kliop00023
kliop00023

1. i don't think they have trained chimps particularly for the task/game at all. That means chimps won't do it if there's no food etc., and that has little bias to make them out-perform human. Ai likes and enjoying the game pretty much tho... lol 2. from the video, we/i don't know they can distinguish the no. same as we do or by your means or they can distinguish no. one-by-one.

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TiagoTiago
TiagoTiago

I bet top Beat Saber players would ace the hard mode.

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TiagoTiago
TiagoTiago

Is there somewhere I can play that memory game online and compare my scores to chimps?

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Side Films
Side Films

This a very long and extended way to say: “shut the F up”

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john Tan
john Tan

Damn Japan has touchscreens already in the 70s

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Jairo Heyy
Jairo Heyy

I just grew 29 IQ points

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Jason Casper
Jason Casper

Ayumus speed wasnt as hard as michael made it out to be its just hard since the screen is so big to physically look and comprehend all the numbers . if screen was smaller humans would prob do better

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T WIZ
T WIZ

I'd like to see a version of the number memorization experiment with a smaller focused area for the numbers. Our eyes aren't seeing accurately outside of a small window. In this same regard, I'd like to see how native tribes that lived in dense forests their whole lives fair in this experiment as well since their whole depth perception is out of whack for long distances.

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gogbees
gogbees

“Look at monky”

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somebody nobody
somebody nobody

do u think the chimp would have been eased into the .5 second test? . Im certain humans could do that if eased into it.

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Andrey Pontes
Andrey Pontes

Ainda parte do pressuposto que "viemos do macaco". Minha curiosidade acabou aí.

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lol who cares
lol who cares

im probably a monkey, cause i could do it almost as fast as ayumu lmaoo

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yellowburger
yellowburger

God, the end of this video with the Japanese scientist howling like a chimp is the greatest thing on the internet.

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yellowburger
yellowburger

How did they teach the monkeys the numbers in the first place?

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Sanjit Kiran
Sanjit Kiran

i don't understand how evolution works. how can the brain change itself to adapt to the changes ?? how does the DNA know when to change? I don't think evolution is real.

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Safir
Safir

Do more research, I think you’re on the brink of a eureka.

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Jose Rhode Island
Jose Rhode Island

it could start off as a mutation - this mutation could be desirable or not given the environment or culture the chimp lives in - if it is desirable - that chimp may have more mating options because this mutation could be that great that it makes him a better provider or better hunter or something that makes him better at something than the others - this could be an attractive feature to the female chimps - more off spring means more chimps are likely born with same mutation

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Lord Clarkson
Lord Clarkson

So the human race is basically Meowth from Pokémon? We put effort in to learning communication, over other skills?

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bill vassiliou
bill vassiliou

Well, Ai is trained and Ai is the best chimpanzee at this specific task out of the, I don't know 20 chimpanzees living there? Shouldn't the correct experiment require 1) some training of 20 people at this task and 2) selecting the best of them to compete with Ai? OK, I take it back this is not the most correct experiment, the most correct experiment would be to compare scores of all 20-30 chimps vs all 20-30 humans and do like a t-test or something similar to prove that this phenomenon is true (the average score in this memory test of humans is lower that the average chimpanzee score)

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B Fall
B Fall

What the fuck does "premium free episode" mean?!

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Tom Spagnola
Tom Spagnola

Man, michael really is a douche. Now both chimps and robots will hate him. You shouldn't have gloated at ai like that.

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Ryan912
Ryan912

"In the next episode, I will die." Wow, just wow.

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Ryan912
Ryan912

...Planet of the Apes?

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Ryan912
Ryan912

A lab called "Skylab"? Skynet?

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*Matthew Noneya*
*Matthew Noneya*

Hey young chimpanzee who's done it since he was born, or a 40 year old man who's never done it. Wait what? The chimpanzee is better?

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Parthian Capitalist
Parthian Capitalist

11:02 lol ok Lenin

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Your Wonderful
Your Wonderful

here we see gaming with Michael

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Your Wonderful
Your Wonderful

goblins are like monkeys confirmed

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Dennis Tejada
Dennis Tejada

Do you have a podcast

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Epicvampire800
Epicvampire800

I feel like this is bullshit. With no training i was able to memorize the first 4 numbers of the nine number sequence, if i spent an hour doing this i could definitely rival the chimps.

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Safir
Safir

Me too. But Te difficulty gets exponentially harder.

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dp
dp

http://youtu.be/ejhNxNIKvOI

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Anand Patel
Anand Patel

I miss the regular videos

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itspodin
itspodin

If the chimp is trained in this from the start his brain may have favored more short therm working memory. It is well known the WM of humans is about 7. The fact that the chimp gains food after doing it makes it so the brain reinforces the recognition of these exact patterns. If the old chimp would have beat him after some training that would be solid evidence. What's next? Parrots beating people in memory tasks because they were trained from birth? The theory is solid, but the idea that WMC was just shrunk for exactly language is a bit far fetched. A simpler explanation would be that the optimum for survival is just big enough for 7.

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Zinouweel
Zinouweel

See you at Protolang 6, Mister Matsuzawa!

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red yoshi
red yoshi

We traded off smart michael for greedy michael

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Nick Dzink
Nick Dzink

Bad monkey!

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Sharon Crossman
Sharon Crossman

Michael talked to himself and to the instructor during the tests. He was getting feedback, whereas the chimps performed quietly and received no verbal commentary. The tester should have asked Michael to be quiet like the chimp. The outcome would probably be the same, but as it was, the test conditions were not similar.

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Sixten the Nihilist
Sixten the Nihilist

My processing capabilities have been eclipsed by those of a damn monkey. My feeling of humiliation is immeasurable.

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Phil Weatherley
Phil Weatherley

I can't see this trade-off argument. New skills drive out old...? The ability to very rapidly catch, process and categorise visual detail would be necessary for moving at speed through branches. I think it is this faculty which enables the chimps to capture and sort the numbers. The simplicity of their tree-dwelling life would not require much language demonstrated by the vocab they they have now. Jane Goodall is primary researcher in chimps natural behaviours

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Just a Youtuber
Just a Youtuber

Y U ONLY POST ON YT RED :( 1 Like= 1 Damage to YouTube Premium

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BBoy Luuk
BBoy Luuk

he is how to basic for sure

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Cristian Gavrilescu
Cristian Gavrilescu

nightmare fairy tale for your twisted taste no evolution, no proofs, only God

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Safir
Safir

Cristian Gavrilescu Using ad hominem isn’t gonna convince me. Give me an actual argument here.

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Cristian Gavrilescu
Cristian Gavrilescu

+Safir we have oil, gas, gold, wood, water, any food, any drink, anything, you must be fool to believe evolution did that

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Safir
Safir

Cristian Gavrilescu I’m not gonna have faith in someone that made everything bad & didn’t fix anything when millions pray to him. Also, another question. Why is your god real & not the others? There are hundreds of gods, so why is yours the real one?

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Cristian Gavrilescu
Cristian Gavrilescu

+Safir you can see God and still not believe, you need faith to believe in God

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Robert Barnes
Robert Barnes

Great insights. However, Dr. Matsuzawa may have overlooked what is possibly the most important function of imagination. Sharing is one product of the ability to think abstractly -- imagination -- but perhaps a more important outcome of imagination is creativity. Creativity, the ability to see two things, or concepts, or possibilities in our environment and make an entirely new thing/concept/possibility. That ability to create seems to be entirely separate from "intelligence", whatever that is. Dolphins have intelligence, but don't ceate. Creativity churns out things like stone tools, agriculture, counting, symbolic reasoning, language -- everything that makes culture.

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mr. Kiwang
mr. Kiwang

Whooooooooooooo

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Fling Gonza
Fling Gonza

How do they know about numbers and how did they do it from smallest to greatest????

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Generic Channel #18
Generic Channel #18

Primates are very intelligent, apparently intelligent enough to be taught 1-9

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